#* ☆ QUINN FABRAY & THE UNHOLY TRINITY‚ dynamics.

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...not even two full seasons later...

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I'm tempted to shoot Sebastian back at you, but instead I'll say Quinn. (and then you can also answer for Seb if you like)

send me a character and i’ll break their ass down

ooh yay two characters

quinn fabray

how i feel about this character

i love quinn so much she’s such a bitch but also she’s so real for so many of the things she does and says, she’s a character i would love to write about someday when i branch out from my tiny seblaine bubble

all the people i ship romantically with this character

my main ship for quinn is rachel i just really like their dynamic and history and i really wish the creators made them canon. i do enjoy some quinntana and fabrevans just for funsies as well. other than that i don’t really have any romantic ships for quinn. i think her canon relationships with finn and puck served their purposes in her life but i prefer them as friends with some awkward history

my non-romantic otp for this character

quinncedes my beloved, their friendship is so sweet to me and i find them so endearing. i also love the unholy trinity’s friendship they’re very awful to each other but very fun

my unpopular opinion about this character

i don’t know if this is unpopular per se but i think quinn was in the right for trying to get her baby away from shelby. she obviously had ulterior motives but shelby was real fucked up and her relationship with puck was terrible and shouldn’t have happen ever even remotely in the first place

one thing i wish would happened/had happened with this character in canon

obviously for faberry to happen but more specifically i wish we got to see more of her friendship with rachel after graduation; i feel like the writers always ignored a lot of the supposed closeness the nds had in favor of drama (or yknow just rachel’s life or whatever) but the bonds between all of them would’ve been nice to see

sebastian smythe

how i feel about this character

my SON my favorite specialest character ever he’s a bastard he’s a slut he’s the lover boy who never got a chance he’s everything to me i make it known to everyone and he will always be cherished by me

all the people i ship romantically with this character

blaine obvs my otp in the most genuine way literally what got me back into writing, but also i do like the idea of kurtbastian i just need to get myself more used to it before i really dive into them. jeffbastian is a little cute to me especially because of how bright we burn but never gonna be a super serious ship of mine. other than that, no one really or at least no one canon. many nameless faces have been in his past and future of course

my non-romantic otp for this character

my sweet match made in hell sebtana, i think about my stepcousins au so much i’ve forgotten they’re not actually canon and have talked like twice but they’re still my favs. they’re team rocket in another life

my unpopular opinion about this character

that he’s not heartless skank trash and actually a person who’s yeah pretty shitty at times but everyone in this show is pretty shitty at times and that doesn’t make them evil. it’s really easy to villainize sebastian and i get it, honestly i’ve villainized the shit out of some of the other characters before in my head, but at the end of the day he’s some petty competitive guy who wanted to fuck his crush and had the bigotry of most teenage boys at any point of the history of society. he’s neither a perfect angel of a character nor the devil and he’s got potential to grow like any of us. i don’t really fault anyone for being pissed it just kinda makes me sad because he’s my fav, but whatever yknow

one thing i wish would happened/had happened with this character in canon

pretty obvious that i wish seblaine got together but beyond that i wish they became friends again at any point in the show. i know because of the timing between flash and later seasons of the show + the overwhelming love of klaine, seblaine both platonically and/or romantically didn’t really stand a chance but i feel like they could’ve at least hinted at a reunion between the two.

[tuiyla]

i just stumbled upon your entire account and words cannot express how in awe i am of the way you write about glee. if you’re still doing headcanons, would you happen to have some about the unholy trinity outside the romance/sexual stuff?

Welcome Anon! I suppose there's a lot of Glee writings to look back on haha. Haven't written that much about the UHT so far but I do have a cheerleader stereotypes essay planned, ETA before 2026 probably? Curious to know what part of my writing inspires awe haha - I often feel it's just digging when it ain't that deep but happy to do the writers' work for them.

Always doing headcanons! I do find the non-sexual specification funny but in the best way. I have a ton of Unholy Trinity headcanons, here are some:

I like to think of Brittany as the negotiator. Not just because of "stop the violence" but more so her disappointment when she catches Quinntana slapping each other in Thanksgiving. In a story where she'd be allowed more agency I think she'd be upset by Quinntana really fighting. And I know, I know, the show gave us nothing in terms of a Quittany friendship but I headcanon that Britt, contrary to popular expectations, wasn't so quick to immediately take Santana's side. I think Britt knows exactly when Santana's in the wrong and is more willing to see Quinn's POV. Plus she's the most emotionally intelligent out of the three.

Similarly, I see headcanons about either Quinntana or Brittana being friends first but I'd like to think it was Britt and Quinn. Maybe they met slightly earlier and the Fabrays approved of Brittany being Quinn's friend even if she was odd. And then Santana joins them but feels like an outsider at first, being intimidated by Quinn but feeling drawn to both. The out-of-universe explanation for the UHT coming into existence is really just "trio of mean girls" but I think it's fascinating to think about how each got popular and how much of their friendship was genuine vs affected by the social hierarchy. Initially, anyway.

I touched on this a week or so ago but season 1 is just, ugh, in terms of how it handles Quinn's pregnancy and Brittana's lack of role in it. But they still stick together even after Quinn's fall from grace so I like headcanoning that the UHT stays somewhat intact in season 1B. Santana is (temporary) head Cheerio and Brittana are still within that top dog bubble that Quinn isn't anymore but they're all in Glee and sort of, just stay together. Out of not knowing what else there is, at first, but then because they realize they genuinely like eahc other's company. Even Quinntana.

All three kind of lose themselves around the time of 100/New Directions but after Brittana get back together they make more of an effort to keep in touch with Quinn. When Mercedes tours with Brittana as backup/dancers Quinn travels to meet them at one of the locations. Bonus Quinncedes points.

These aren't really specific headcanons, let me know if that's more of what you were looking for but yeah I just fill in a lof of the gaps in my head. Because Glee loved to capitalize on the idea of the UHT without putting in the work but I love this trio and I'll be damned if I let people tell me it "wasn't real" or whatever. It's real to me, okay? And the most gaps need filling in with Quinn and Brittany because that was the least developed duo dynamic, but I do think the trio dynamic is different (and more) than the sum of all three duo pairings.

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Top 20 glee dynamics voted by my followers

#14 Unholy trinity - Quinn & Santana & Brittany 60 votes

“What do you say you and I reunite a little threesome called the unholy trinity?”

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TAG  DROP  PART  8

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What are the most overrated and underrated characters?

hello anon! i'm assuming you mean glee, so i'm just going to answer for that show. if you meant some other fandom please lmk. this is probably going to get...extremely harsh, even by my standards, so i’m putting it under a cut. 

also, this is entirely based on my fandom experiences and is all subjective! everyone is entitled to their own favorites and all of this is just my opinion. 

overrated characters:

sebastian smythe - he's not super popular on other fandom platforms, but for reasons i'll never understand, he's well loved on here despite the lack of personality or development. i guess being a white gay man has its perks 🤷🏻‍♀️

quinn fabray - i really, really dislike her character. she's so poorly written and her storylines are badly constructed and uninteresting. the constant backsliding of her character is extremely frustrating considering how she keeps learning the same lessons over and over and then tossing them out the window shortly afterward. it made sense in seasons 2 and 3 if you squinted hard enough, but by s4 i was just fed up with her constantly going back to her old ways. but regression aside, i also found her obsession with popularity and status irritating as fuck given how the show never really delved deep into why she cared so much. there were a couple of small hints here and there regarding her family, but they never developed her obsession with having a popular boyfriend and winning prom queen as much as they could have, so it just felt shallow to most viewers. her romantic relationships were also...not great and felt were painful to watch, especially since i headcanon her as a lesbian. that being said, if she was canonically a lesbian, i might have liked her more and found her more sympathetic, similar to santana. but alas, RIB were too cowardly to give that to us. anyway, i also don’t think she’s funny, her dynamics with other characters (aside from santana) were either dropped or were not compelling, and i don't enjoy her voice, nor do i think she has the best stage presence. i do, however, think dianna is a talented actress, and i think she deserved much better than the crappy storylines that she was given.

sam evans - i do actually like sam, however i feel like he's let off of the hook far too easily in terms of his more 'problematic' (god i hate that word) actions (see here for more detail on this). i also don't really get why he's most people's favorite male character despite not really doing much throughout the series aside from dating every single girl on the show and befriending blaine. the writers didn’t care about him enough to give him any sort of consistent development or stories of his own, and it’s hard to get invested in his character when it was so badly written. again, i don’t dislike him or anything, but i do feel like a lot of praise that he gets is for doing the bare minimum for a straight white guy and isn’t really warranted.  

mike chang - i feel similarly about him as i do about sam, except mike got even less material than sam on the show. 99% of his praise comes from him being ‘the most unproblematic glee character,’ and i just don’t think that not being problematic is worth praising. he may not have done anything wrong...but he also didn’t do anything at all. i still like him and i think harry’s talent deserved better, i'm just not invested and i think he gets too much hype despite having such a minimal role. 

brittany s. pierce - i’m not going to claim that she’s overrated on tumblr because i do see a lot of hate for her character on here, but on other platforms like tiktok, she (along with the entire unholy trinity) is very well loved. fans claim that she was ‘unproblematic’ even though she’s done a lot of really shitty things, and all of her racist/bullying remarks (the unique/mercedes joke for example) get brushed off as ‘iconic.’ there’s also the fact that brittana is routinely praised for being the ‘healthiest’ couple, which is, again, not true, and that gets really frustrating to see and has really soured me on her character. 

season 2 blaine - listen...y’all know i adore blaine anderson so, so much, but 95% of that comes from seasons 4-6, when he was actually a real, full character. i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again: the only thing that was superior about s2 blaine was his hair (and some of his outfits).  early!klaine is precious, but s2 blaine as an individual was boring af. i know people are obsessed w/ unproblematic characters, and that’s why ‘perfect’ s2 blaine is most of this fandom’s favorite, but it’s still disappointing to see that viewers would rather watch a cardboard cutout with no personality than a flawed but interesting character. imo s4-6 blaine deserves all the hype that s2 blaine gets.

underrated characters: 

carole hudson-hummel - when it comes to talking about glee parents, burt hummel is normally brought up most, which is fair considering that his character is amazing and definitely got the most screentime and development throughout the series, but i honestly think that carole deserves just as much love. her response to finding out that finn was ‘having a baby’ was so kind and compassionate. she also allowed quinn to live with them, judgement free, and i don’t think she gets the respect she deserves for that. she was just a fantastic mother to finn and mother figure to kurt, and her relationship with burt was so wholesome and sweet. as heartbreaking as it was, i also found her mini arc of grief over finn very powerful and i’m glad that glee gave that to us. she's just all-around one of the most loving people on the show, and i adore her so much. 

elliott gilbert - i do think he gets a fair amount of love from the extreme kurt stan side of fandom, but since that’s not a part of the fandom that i particularly care for, i don’t see much content for him. i’d say he’s pretty underrated within the general fandom, and i wish there was more kelliott friendship fic and/or other content out there. kelliott friendship in klaine fic is always so much fun and i love it when writers utilize him in their work. kelliott is also one of the two non-klaine kurt ships i genuinely think are good, and i wouldn’t have minded if they’d dated in s4 instead of kadam. 

mercedes jones - this might seem like an odd one because mercedes is now very well liked in this fandom, but if i’m being honest....a lot of the love for mercedes seems performative. since there’s no real reason to dislike mercedes outside of racism, i've witnessed quite a few people jumping on the bandwagon of liking her, yet they never praise her unless it’s sancedes related or it’s using her character to shit on rachel. i rarely see any mercedes content in this fandom that’s purely and genuinely about her, and that makes me sad bc my girl deserves all of the love. until people appreciate her for who she is, i’ll say that she remains underrated. 

kitty wilde - this is probably super controversial given that kitty herself is really divisive, but i think she’s a great character. her actions at the beginning of her storyline are deplorable, but that level of evil is something we hadn’t previously seen on the show and was lowkey fascinating. she’s...honestly the only s4 newbie i found interesting, and i am so glad that she was the one who was brought back in s6 to finish her story. i love her scheming side, particularly in 6x05, i love her snark, i love her friendship with rachel and her cute little background moments with other characters, and i love that she’s definitely a klaine stan. i love that she got to show off her vulnerable side in episodes like 4x20 and 6x05. i love that she found a genuine passion for singing and dancing, and i love that she did eventually become a better person through the glee club. i love her relationship with artie. i love how talented she is, and i love how much energy becca tobin brought to the role. i’m just going to say that if the rumors are true that kitty was created specifically to be a better quinn....she succeeded in doing that in every way 🤷🏻‍♀️

the s6 newbies - this is kind of a cheap cop-out because these kids were barely there, but i see a lot of other minor characters getting a lot of love, so i’m going to spread my s6 newbie agenda here. these kids were miles better than the ones we got in s4, and i bet that if we’d gotten this crop of kids in earlier seasons instead of the bland s4 batch, then the show would've fared a lot better. jane is a goddamn powerhouse, and i love her feminist, take-no-shit attitude. mason and madison’s twin schtick is really endearing. roderick’s voice is like butter, and minus the fatphobic jokes i think his character had so much potential. spencer is the only one i don’t really care for but he does offer an interesting perspective due to his experiences growing up gay in a different time than kurt, blaine, dave karofsky, etc. all of these kids are so talented, none of them were carbon copies of the originals, and they could’ve easily grown into fantastic characters had they gotten more development.

this is all super controversial, so hopefully i don’t get eaten alive for posting something that goes off on several fan favorite characters, lol. but it is all subjective, and i respect anyone that likes the overrated characters or dislikes the underrated ones. all of these characters contributed to what made the show so great, and what i like about this fandom is that we all gravitate to different characters, yet all of our preferences and contributions to fandom are equally valid. 

(except for sebastian, because he really is the worst.)